Well, there are 2 main reasons:
* The ATI driver (fglrx) is not compatible with Feisty’s kernel (2.6.20). For this reason Envy should use a patch. I’d rather wait for official support by ATI/AMD but if this doesn’t happen before Feisty’s release I will implement this feature in Envy. (This is not the main reason for delaying the support for Feisty).
* I read on the ubuntu-devel mailing list that Xorg 7.2 *might* be made available on Feisty. I haven’t tried the new Xorg yet and I would need some time to see the way it handles settings (e.g. if it doesn’t use a xorg.conf at all).
NOTE: I haven’t installed Feisty yet, therefore if you have any suggestion or what I wrote is not (entirely) correct, please do not hesitate to contact me.
I think we will have a new AMD-graphical driver on 2007. Normally AMD-ATI put the new Windows driver and the new Linux driver on the same time on the web site. AMD will crate a new driver for the new card r600 for XP and Vista, I think we will have a new Linux driver and a new Mac driver at the same time.
I tried Envy last night on my ThinkPad T41p. Two problems: 1. The screen flickered like crazy, and 2. I still had MESA OpenGL, so no OpenGL software would launch. So I’m back on the open source drivers.
The whole “we need binary drivers to get quality drivers” argument is a pile of crap. The ATI drivers are teh suck.
Have you check if your card is supporting by ati or nvidia driver?
Hmm. I’m running feisty:
Linux tienel 2.6.20-8-lowlatency #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 13 05:21:37 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
And I have ‘restricted modules’ installed, and run fglrx on an ATI9800XT. fgl_glxgears gives me about 755FPS and shows up as plenty fast.
Of course there is a problem that with dual screen the opengl rendering is ‘halfway-off’ (window has to be twice the normal size for full image to show)
After reading this post, I went to check, and sure enough, it looks like Xorg 7.2 went into Feisty about four hours ago:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/2007-February/005835.html
YES!!!
Xorg 7.2 in feisty!!! feisty it will be…
(please excuse the exclamation marks)
Ok, if 7.2 is in Feisty I’ll download a daily build and install it on my hard disk 😉
that will be great Alberto 🙂 Thanks!
loaded feisty on my legacy machine (6-year old Dell dimension 4100) and had not problems with my ATI graphics. Looking forward to the final build!
Hello, I have a problem with Envy, when I start my computer my screen write “hors de portée”. I think in english it’s “Out of range”. I have an ACL (connect in DVI) Benq FP93GX. I think it’s because my screen can not support a bigger frequency than 75 hertz. How can I correct that?
I have use envy to uninstall ati driver and I have restart. at that time I have no graphical, juste the text and I can not do any thing. I think I will format my computer and reinstall Kubuntu if I have no solution to this problem. Can you help me?
Alberto, you software is very good, the problem is ATI and his stupid driver…
hi
i ‘ve tried envy nut i can’t get the ATI driver has been installed…
after install envy, the resolution of initial screen was modified and then when i try to init a gnome session the screen keeps frozen…then i restart and i can’t work in X session no more until i come back to my old xorg.conf
i have a DELL inspiron 6400 with an ATI mobility radeon x1300
thanks for the effort.
bye
pierluc:
did you change anything on your computer before you got that problem?
samuel:
1) does the Internet connection work in Ubuntu?
2) can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
With the last version of speedtouch-ng I have no problems with my internet connection.
Can I use the auto-detection script of the Ubuntu installer to reconfigure automatically Xorg?
The installation with ebvy is very good, but I have a problem with ATI driver. I have the same problem with all installation technic. I think the problem is ATI driver do not detect corectly my screen and don’t configure correctly Xorg.
” I have the same problem with all installation technic.”
I don’t know if “technic” is the good word… installation guide?
Sorry, I’me not very good in english
how can I ajust the refresh rate (hertz) to 75hertz?
pierluc:
LCD monitors connected via DVI can use up to 60Hz.
I have read on internet than the lcd screen write “hors de porté” (out of range) when the refresh rate is to bigger. The maximum of my screen is 76hertz and the minimum is 60hertz.
http://www.benq.ca/products/LCD/?product=594&page=specifications
How can I install Xorg 7.2 in command line? I think the auto-config of Xorg 7.2 will help me.
Any ideas when I will be able to use this on feisty?? It works prefect on Edgy! But I would love to move to feisty! Thanks for the great program!
alberto, I have type ls -al /etc/X11/ and it give me that:
xorg.conf
xorg.conf-fglrx-0
xorg.conf-fglrx-1
xorg.conf.original-0
xorg.conf_backup_200702251452
xorg.conf_backup_200702251902
I think the xorg backup of envy is xorg.conf_backup_200702251452.
To use this backup I have type:
xorg.conf_backup_200702251452
And it give me this error:
cp cannot stat `xorg.conf_backup_200702251452
No such file or directory
What can I do?
ok, I have do a mistake. it’s not /etc/x11 it’s /etc/X11
ok, I have do a mistake. it’s not /etc/x11 it’s /etc/X11
Can-you ad un links on your script for change the xorg.conf if it has a problem?
Bon, I can go on kde but I don’t have the driver.
This is my source list:
Sorry, it’s big but I don’t have your Email addresse.
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the ‘universe’
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the ‘backports’
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe
deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main
#//FR
deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted
#//International
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted
#//FR
deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted
#//International
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted
#//FR
deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security main restricted
deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
#//International
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
#//FR
deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
#//International
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
#//FR
deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates universe multiverse
deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates universe multiverse
#//International
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates universe multiverse
#//FR
deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe multiverse
deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe multiverse
#//International
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe multiverse
#//FR
deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
#//International
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
#Kubuntu Packages
deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-latest/ edgy main
deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-latest/ edgy main
deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ edgy main
deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ edgy main
deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ edgy main
deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ edgy main
This is my xorg.conf
Ps.: I think it will be a good idea to delete this messge because it take a lot of space.
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type “man /etc/X11/xorg.conf” at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
Section “Files”
FontPath “/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc”
FontPath “/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic”
FontPath “/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled”
FontPath “/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled”
FontPath “/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1”
FontPath “/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi”
FontPath “/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi”
FontPath “/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc”
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath “/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType”
EndSection
Section “Module”
Load “i2c”
Load “bitmap”
Load “ddc”
Load “dri”
Load “extmod”
Load “freetype”
Load “glx”
Load “int10”
Load “type1”
Load “vbe”
EndSection
Section “InputDevice”
Identifier “Generic Keyboard”
Driver “kbd”
Option “CoreKeyboard”
Option “XkbRules” “xorg”
Option “XkbModel” “pc105”
Option “XkbLayout” “ca”
Option “XkbOptions” “lv3:ralt_switch”
EndSection
Section “InputDevice”
Identifier “Configured Mouse”
Driver “mouse”
Option “CorePointer”
Option “Device” “/dev/input/mice”
Option “Protocol” “ExplorerPS/2”
Option “ZAxisMapping” “4 5”
Option “Emulate3Buttons” “true”
EndSection
Section “InputDevice”
Driver “wacom”
Identifier “stylus”
Option “Device” “/dev/wacom” # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option “Type” “stylus”
Option “ForceDevice” “ISDV4” # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection
Section “InputDevice”
Driver “wacom”
Identifier “eraser”
Option “Device” “/dev/wacom” # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option “Type” “eraser”
Option “ForceDevice” “ISDV4” # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection
Section “InputDevice”
Driver “wacom”
Identifier “cursor”
Option “Device” “/dev/wacom” # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option “Type” “cursor”
Option “ForceDevice” “ISDV4” # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection
Section “Device”
Identifier “ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AS [Radeon 9600]”
Driver “ati”
BusID “PCI:1:0:0”
EndSection
Section “Monitor”
Identifier “BenQ FP93GX”
Option “DPMS”
EndSection
Section “Screen”
Identifier “Default Screen”
Device “ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AS [Radeon 9600]”
Monitor “BenQ FP93GX”
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection “Display”
Depth 1
Modes “1280×1024” “1152×864” “1024×768” “832×624” “800×600” “720×400” “640×480” “640×350”
EndSubSection
SubSection “Display”
Depth 4
Modes “1280×1024” “1152×864” “1024×768” “832×624” “800×600” “720×400” “640×480” “640×350”
EndSubSection
SubSection “Display”
Depth 8
Modes “1280×1024” “1152×864” “1024×768” “832×624” “800×600” “720×400” “640×480” “640×350”
EndSubSection
SubSection “Display”
Depth 15
Modes “1280×1024” “1152×864” “1024×768” “832×624” “800×600” “720×400” “640×480” “640×350”
EndSubSection
SubSection “Display”
Depth 16
Modes “1280×1024” “1152×864” “1024×768” “832×624” “800×600” “720×400” “640×480” “640×350”
EndSubSection
SubSection “Display”
Depth 24
Modes “1280×1024” “1152×864” “1024×768” “832×624” “800×600” “720×400” “640×480” “640×350”
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section “ServerLayout”
Identifier “Default Layout”
Screen “Default Screen”
InputDevice “Generic Keyboard”
InputDevice “Configured Mouse”
InputDevice “stylus” “SendCoreEvents”
InputDevice “cursor” “SendCoreEvents”
InputDevice “eraser” “SendCoreEvents”
EndSection
Section “DRI”
Mode 0666
EndSection
Identifier “ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AS [Radeon 9600]”
This is not true, it’s a radeon 9550
Look at that
the good xorg.conf:
Section “Monitor”
Identifier “BenQ FP93GX”
Option “DPMS”
EndSection
The bad:
Section “Monitor”
Identifier “BenQ FP93GX”
Option “DPMS”
EndSection
Section “Monitor”
Identifier “aticonfig-Monitor[0]”
Option “VendorName” “ATI Proprietary Driver”
Option “ModelName” “Generic Autodetecting Monitor”
Option “DPMS” “true”
EndSection
I has two Section for “Monitor”, I think this is the bogue.
Could you maybe write a script that uninstalls an Edgy “envy” driver install from a recently Feisty upgrade? It broked my xserver (which was easy to fix) but now Upgrade manager doest want to install nvidia-xgl
think this problem will become more prevalent as ppl start upgrading
New ati drivers 8.36 supports kernel 2.6.20 and then they are supposed to work on feisty….but actually envy only installs 8.35 ati drivers therefore actual envy version doesn’t support feisy even if it could…fix it please!